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Stages of Osteoarthritis

dilauroddilauro ConnecticutPosts: 12,072
edited 07/10/2019 - 10:53 AM in Arthritis, Osteoarthritis

Here are the common stages of Osteoarthritis

Stage 0  Classified as “normal”  
Stage 1  - Stage 3 increasing severity of the condition
Stage 4  Considered “severe.”  

Anyone have any experiences to share in various stages?  How are you doing and what has worked well for you?

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  • jbowerjbower wisconsin Posts: 152

    Hi Ron,

    What do you do with stage 4 osteoarthritis in the thoracic spine? I have been trying to find a treatment center here in Wisconsin but no luck. Stem cell therapy is starting to become popular but you have to pay cash. There are not enough studies out there to back it up.  So insurance won't cover it.

    Its too much to payout of pocket for a chance to receive pain relief.  I've done everything thing to help with the pain with zerp relief.  Multiple injections, radiofrequency multiple times, physical therapy, massage therapy, chiropractor care, dry needling, spinal cord stimulator, medication's and a pain pump.

    No relief from any of those. Multiple doctors say there is nothing more I can do. I'm 37 and I see by the time I'm 45 that i will be completely disabled because there is "nothing" more that can be done.  I understand its not curable but you would think there woul be something to help.  With 3 children in the house they shouldn't watch their father spending so much time laying on the floor with an ice pack as that's the only thing that helps.

    Taking it one day at a time, that is all we really can do while living with chronic pain.

  • charryccharry Posts: 5,661
    edited 07/10/2019 - 10:50 AM

    My Mom just fractured her femur because of osteoporosis, Her family Dr started her on the injection for severe Osteoarthritis, it;s an injection she got it approved right away and had the first injection and will get another one later in the year. [The dr said] it can stop damage from Osteo.

    DDD of lumbar spine with sciatica to left hip,leg and foot. L4-L5 posterior disc bulge with prominent facets, L5-S1 prominent facets with a posterior osteocartilaginous bar. Mild bilateral foraminal narrowing c-spine c4-c7 RN
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  • dilauroddilauro ConnecticutPosts: 12,072
    edited 07/10/2019 - 10:51 AM

    @jbower

    I wish I had something to say to help.  I dont know what can be done with Osteoarthritis in the Thoracic area.   Other areas, joint replacements will help, but in the T-spine, I dont know.

    Has your doctor offered any recommendations?

  • jbowerjbower wisconsin Posts: 152

    There isn't anything else anyone can offer.  I've seen multiple specialists and surgeons neuro and ortho and they all say there is nothing that can be done that I already haven't tried.  My pain management doctor also ran out of ideas and keeps filling my meds that don't offer much help.

    I've been optimistic for the past few years and it wasn't till the last surgeon I saw who put my stimulator in said the same thing.  That's when it finally hit me that this is my life now and I can't do anything more than feeling it get worse as the yeary go by.

    Taking it one day at a time, that is all we really can do while living with chronic pain.

  • dilauroddilauro ConnecticutPosts: 12,072

    Jay,

    I'v read enough of your comments to know that are really suffering from your thoracic condition.   Thats what first brought me to Spine-Health in 2006.  I had T3,T5,T6 and T8..    At that time, there wasnt many options.   I had already had 9 cervical and lumbar surgeries and no on felt that my spine was stable enough for thoracic surgery.   Plus, back then it was a barbaric surgery.

    Coming in through the front, crank your breastbone, defalte and move aside a lung to get to the Thoracic disc and then there still wasnt much guarantee that it would help   Thoracic surgery has come a long way since then but its still not a simple procedure as you know.

    I spent 18 months in physical and aqua therapy trying to improve my thoracic condition.   Living on Oxycontin and Oxycodone daily just to get back was not what I had in mind.

    My physiatrist, who always believes in alternative medicine and eastern medicine, sent me to this guru fro Thailand.  He was educated,trained and practice in Thailand for year   He came over to the states and has been doing the same for over 20 years.

    He never advertised, he doesnt take patients, only with  referrals to a specific set of doctors.   I spent 6 to 9 months weekly with him with some of the most painful deep and soft tissues massage.   After 4 months he was ablt to break down my deep major rhomboid muscles which was creating pressure on my thoracic discs.     As that muscle became more pliable, much of my thoracic pain started to subside.

    Over 13 years and I still seee this man  He does regular tunes on me and also makes sure that rhomboid muscle doest lock up again

    Jay, this worked for me, I have no idea if this is even something your doctors would consider.   It just that my doctors ran out of ideas, except for the one who wouldnt give up on me


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  • jbowerjbower wisconsin Posts: 152

    Hi Ron,

    That sounds very interesting. It's also the first time I've heard of the rhomboid muscle.  I did some searching so I knew what your talking about and it really does look like something that might be causing me pain.

    It makes sense to me as the more I think about it because my pain is localized on both the left and right side of the thoracic.  Plus it starts out ok in the morning and then as the day goes by the pain continues to build up before I can't do anymore.

    The trouble is while I was looking that up is how do you find someone who would be able to do the same as you had done? I tried looking it up a few ways and it's either telling you what it is or how to stretch those muscles.

    I don't know if I should start calling massage therapists and asking about it.  I doubt I'll get anywhere with my pain doctor as she gave up and said there's no more to try. I go once a month there now.  One for a med pickup and the next month to fill the pump.

    There has been a number of things that I've brought up that I feel she should have told me about.  So if you have any ideas how to find someone that would work on those muscles I would appreciate it.  I'm in the Milwaukee, WI area.

    Thank youy

    Taking it one day at a time, that is all we really can do while living with chronic pain.

  • dilauroddilauro ConnecticutPosts: 12,072

    Jay,

    I was fortunate in the fact that it was my physiatrist that recommended me to this person.  Like I said, he only takes referrals and that keeps him more than busy.

    While looking for a therapist to do this work, you would need to check if they do both deep and soft tissue massage.   Many massage therapist claim this, its on their advertisement, but in reality they do just a simple approach to this.

    The massage person needs to have a detailed knowledge of the body, spine, muscles, tendons, etc.  The person I see originally started out in Thailand to become a doctor, so he had a great amount of  understanding of the body.

    You could call different places to basically 'interview' them.  Explain your situation with as much details and see what they can offer.  Probably most of them will say they can.   So, it might be actually going to see them for at least an evaluation or initial treatment.

    When it comes to that deep muscle and almost any condition on my spine, the treatment are painful.   Some say that this type of massage should not be painful.  But after over 10 years of doing this and great results, I know its painful, but it works.

    I wish I could give you more to go on

  • jbowerjbower wisconsin Posts: 152

    Thank you Ron I appreciate the information.

    Taking it one day at a time, that is all we really can do while living with chronic pain.

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