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Fentanyl Help

BIGGIsmallsBBIGGIsmalls Posts: 8
edited 04/22/2014 - 12:00 PM in Pain Medications
Hi everyone.

I'm new here so please excuse me if this is in the wrong section. I was put on fentanyl a couple of years ago for bad back. I was started out on 50 and I'm now on 75. It was working great but after a while it wasn't working as well. A friend told me to cut a piece and chew on it, the rest is history. I had no idea at the time how evil these things were. Now, I seem to have a very small piece in my mouth all day long. I use one 75 a day. I want to so very badly come off of this stuff but it's been the hardest thing I've ever tried to do in my life. Can anyone please help me by giving me their experience? If any others chewed the patch and got off, how did you do it? Any and all help would be appreciated. Thank you all.
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  • Thank you Sandy. I know I'm going to get some answers I don't like. And to be honest, I didn't think chewing such a small piece was that big of deal, I know I was wrong, but I have to try and move forward. I also know I need to just put it back on and leave it there, problem is, I just can't seem to leave it on? And when I do leave it one, I feel like I'm withdrawing? So, Im not sure how to go about this? But thank you for answering me.....:)
  • Also, my Dr doesn't want me off this stuff. I've explained to him I don't like it, but he says it's best I stay on it. I haven't told him I chew it, but I might tell him next appointment. He and I have a very good relationship, and I would feel horrible that I betrayed his trust.
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  • I'm sorry this has happened to you. Your friend gave you some terrible advice. You are going to need to come clean to your doctor. It's going to be hard, but I don't see any other option. As to what he will do, I don't know. I don't think he'll be angry. Explain that you did this on the advice of your friend when you felt the medicine wasn't working anymore. I think you and your doctor should be able to work things out so that your pain is controlled without needing to take medicine the wrong way. The fact that you are not using more medicine than prescribed, just using it the wrong way, is a positive thing.
  • Thank you all so very much for the advice...:) I also need to be honest with you all, I am running out early, and this is what really bothers me the most. I have been buying off the street from a guy who sells his instead of using them. I know it's wrong, I really do, and it depresses me to think I've sank this low. I've never been one to abuse anything, heck, I don't even drink. When I started chewing the patch, very little pieces, 1/8th of an inch, I felt instantly better, I had a little energy and life just felt better. But it really is bothering mentally what I'm doing because although I feel so much better, I know what I'm doing is wrong. My biggest problem is I can't stop chewing the damn things, I know more than anyone that I need to get them put back on and I still can't get myself to do it without feeling like total crap. Do you all think that maybe I should ask my Dr to boost me up to 100 per patch as I would get more then the 75 so it would be a little more med into my system? But I'm also to the point I don't think I can trust myself. This is the position I'm in. This drug has really helped me, but had I known then what I know about it now, I would have said HELL NO to it! and suffered.
  • I'd like to also say that the last 5 days I've got down to about 50 or less a day. I've really stretched it out. I know it doesn't sound like much or a lot, but for me, that's really a big deal. But it's been a rough 5 days. But man, I'm trying my best
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  • It may be difficult to tease out what is happening here. For one, you have pain, so you are using to control it. Tolerance to the meds is resulting in escalating dosage and needing to buy off the street. It sounds like you are medicating your pain but also getting high. Do you use just the amount to control the pain or do you take more until you feel high (relaxed, sense of wellbeing etc.)? I am in no qualified to diagnose an addiction but there are several warning signs you seem be experiencing. Chasing the high, loss of self-control with regards to usage of the drug, buying off the street and deceptive or manipulative behaviour to hide drug use or obtain drugs are some of them. If you feel you have lost control, you may need additional help. Counseling, Narcotics Anonymous meetings, inpatient rehab and opioid substitution therapy (methadone or suboxone) are some ways people get control of their addictions. As you have pain requiring strong opioids anyway, you would probably benefit from substitution with methadone or suboxone. These are effective painkillers and can replace your Fentanyl. They are given in ways to avoid abuse such as a single dose being dispensed at a time, at least to start off with. You may not need all these measures. I may have misjudged your post and your situation may not be so dire but either way, something needs to be done. Many people have died from fentanyl patches being misused. Even applying heat to the area with the patch has killed people. Things will get better, but you need to see your doctor and you need to be 100% honest. If you keep going the way you are, it won't be pretty. Trust me.
  • mcjimjam said:
    It may be difficult to tease out what is happening here. For one, you have pain, so you are using to control it. Tolerance to the meds is resulting in escalating dosage and needing to buy off the street. It sounds like you are medicating your pain but also getting high. Do you use just the amount to control the pain or do you take more until you feel high (relaxed, sense of wellbeing etc.)? I am in no qualified to diagnose an addiction but there are several warning signs you seem be experiencing. Chasing the high, loss of self-control with regards to usage of the drug, buying off the street and deceptive or manipulative behaviour to hide drug use or obtain drugs are some of them. If you feel you have lost control, you may need additional help. Counseling, Narcotics Anonymous meetings, inpatient rehab and opioid substitution therapy (methadone or suboxone) are some ways people get control of their addictions. As you have pain requiring strong opioids anyway, you would probably benefit from substitution with methadone or suboxone. These are effective painkillers and can replace your Fentanyl. They are given in ways to avoid abuse such as a single dose being dispensed at a time, at least to start off with. You may not need all these measures. I may have misjudged your post and your situation may not be so dire but either way, something needs to be done. Many people have died from fentanyl patches being misused. Even applying heat to the area with the patch has killed people. Things will get better, but you need to see your doctor and you need to be 100% honest. If you keep going the way you are, it won't be pretty.

    And no, I don't think you should ask your doc for a stronger patch. You cannot do this on your own. You said yourself that you can't stop chewing the patches. That means you are going to need help to stop.
  • You have been very brave & very honest here. I can only start to imagine the courage you had to summon to admit your addiction & illegal activity. Let's be honest, even if they double the strength of your patches & you follow instruction & use them properly you will never get close to the high you are experiencing by chewing them. Considering increasing your dose is like giving a heroin addict a cupboard full of the stuff & telling them to just use a little each day. I know that I wouldn't have the strength to resist cutting one in your situation. I've been on high doses of narcotic medications (used correctly) & no quantity will completely eliminate your pain.
    I consider myself fortunate that I've never been tempted to abuse my meds. I don't know what it feels like to achieve a pain free escape, it will be incredibly difficult to forget that you have this option. We're very hard on addicts here at times but I admit if I didn't have little children & I knew there was a way to eliminate the nightmare of chronic pain, I would be very, very tempted!
    The truth of your situation has led you to us. I think you know that this has all gone too far & you need professional help. Addiction is a sickness & you need the correct specialists to help heal you. Please consider your addictive nature before starting with methadone. It has a very long half life & you could overdose very easily if you abuse that medication. I don't know if a methadone program will be available for you. Please think very long & hard if it's not. I would not like to see you with a months supply tempting you. You are very lucky to be alive. Please don't jump from the frying pan into the fire!
    Osteoarthritis & DDD.
  • Would you mind sharing what your spine condition is that led you to being prescribed fentanyl originally? Has your back deteriorated? When did you last have diagnostic tests? Let's not forget that you have 2 problems, chronic pain & addiction. Do you still need narcotic therapy to help manage your pain? Did you sign a medication contract with your prescribing doctor?

    I'm very concerned that you know how to obtain narcotics illegally & you have those contacts. I'm worried that your doctor could refuse to treat you when you come clean & that could lead to deeper illegal use with tragic results.

    Please keep talking here. I'm happy to help in any way I can, without judgements. I've never been in your situation but I can understand how it all started. Thank you for sharing. People will read this..you could be saving lives in the future!
    Osteoarthritis & DDD.
  • I thank all of you very very much. I've just read all of the comments, and I'm so thankful for each and everyone of you, I really am. I have a hell of a story to tell. I"m born and raised on the Indian rez, drugs are everywhere. I have used everything under the sun at one point in my life when growing up. But I never let anything out of control and it's been 25 yrs since any illegal stuff or drinking. My condition is from work. I have destroyed nerves in my back and spine, lifting anything hurts bad, sleeping is horrible as I have to change beds about every 3 nights. I chew this patch for pain, and it works very well, but I also seem to get a little bit of energy. I like this because I can get up and do things instead of sitting all day with nothing to do. I was used to 12 hour days, now I just sit and look out the window and chew this patch. The guilt is getting to me bad, I know I need something but I feel as if I enjoy doing it that its wrong. I'm more guilty about what I'm doing then anything. But I try to tell myself that I do need this. I really would like it to work by just putting it back on, but it just doesn't seem to work for me that way. That's the position I'm in. And yes, I think my Dr would be upset, he is a very good guy.
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