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Back pain

clarecclare Posts: 18
edited 09/17/2015 - 4:02 PM in New Member Introductions
hi everyone,
just found this site,
a little bit about me,
i've been of work with back pain since march, the doctor first said it was just a pulled muscle, so i carried on working,
but after the pain getting worse and pins and needles and going back a few time found this was not the case,
the next doctor i was seen by thought it may be a slipped disc and trapped nerve,
i had an mri scan which showed my disc's were fine,
the doctor said i have muscle and ligament damage

but know find it hard to sit in a chair due to the pain it cause, it's hard to get to sleep ( find a comfy position)
if i sit around and do nothing then the pain is mild and the pins and needles are not to bad, but just doing every day tasks can set the pain of,
there are days when the pins and needles are sometimes worse
i'm know on 8 solpadol,, 4 neurontin,,, 8 nurofen and i was taking 1 amitriptyline

welcome to spine-health

one of the most important things that members can do is to provide the rest of the community with as much information about themselves as possible. it is so very difficult for anyone to respond when we do not have enough information to go on. this is not meant to indicate that you are doing anything wrong or violated any rule, we are just trying to be pro-active and get the information upfront so that people can start responding and your thread is more effective.

so many times we read about members who have different tests and they all come back negative. the more clues and information you provide, the better chances in finding out what is wrong, the fact that your test results are negative does not mean that you are fine and without any concerns. many times it takes several diagnostic tests and procedures to isolate a specific condition.

here are some questions that you should answer:
  • - when did this first start? . year, your age, etc
- was it the result of an accident or trauma?
- are there others in your family with similar medication conditions?
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  • . which doctor did you start with? ie primary care physician . who are you currently seeing?
- what conservative treatments have you had? which ones?
  • . physical therapy . ultrasound / tens unit . spinal injections . acupuncture . massage therapy
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  • . summarize the results, please do not post all details, we cannot analyze them . how many different tests have you had over the years? similar results?
- what medications are you currently using? (details, dosage, frequency, etc)
  • . name of medication . how long have you been using this? . results
- has surgery been discussed as an option? (if so, what kind)
- is there any nerve pain/damage associated?
- what is your doctor’s action plan for treating you?

providing answers to questions like this will give the member community here a better understanding
of your situation and make it easier to respond.

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it is very important that new members (or even seasoned members) provide others with details about their condition(s). it is virtually impossible to help another member when all the details we have are

i’ve had this for years, it hurts, i cant move my shoulder – what could this be, what treatment should i get?

diagnosing spinal problems can be very difficult. in many ways it’s like a game of clue. especially, when the diagnostic tests come back negative – no trouble found! then it’s up to the patient and the doctor to start digging deeper. the doctor is like a detective. they need clues to help them move along. so, you as the patient need to provide the doctor with all sorts of clues. that is like it is here. without having information about a condition, its impossible for anyone here to try to help.

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  • Jetta2010JJetta2010 Posts: 22
    edited 09/18/2015 - 4:32 AM
    welcome to the site clare! I'm sorry to hear you are dealing with back pain. I hope you the best and although I can't speak to your condition as I am not a Dr., I can tell you that as a long time sufferer of back pain, there is relief out there. I think it's great you have joined the forum and willing to share what you are going through.
    L5/S1 disk compressed, bulging disk, bilateral facet joint arthropathy, neural foramina narrowing

    Current med: Hydrocodone, 10/325 3x/day, Morphine,15mg 1x/day at bedtime
  • Thanks Jetta2010,
    I know have a tens machine which is helping,, When i have both back pain and pins and needles in my leg i use this afew time by sticking 2 of the pads on my back and 2 on my leg and i move them right down my leg and in a few places on my back and this helps me alot,

    My pins and needles did go for a while but are now back but seem worse than before, I have had a few people say they thinks its sciatica as well but when i go the doctors and complain that i'm in pain and the painkillers only help a bit they just say well the mri scan was clear and she does the reflex test on my legs but my right one that has the pins&needles hardly moves and she says nothing,

    I do have my good days,, I can sit and do nothing maybe alittle house work and be fine just slight pain which i always have, , but other times i try do something and the pain gets worse, it still hurts to sit straight up, just sitting in a chair for a bit or a short car/bus journey and i'm in more pain, I went to the shop yesterday and was just getting a pie of the shelf and managed to twinge my back,

    My kids have been great and they do help me, I just want to know when i'll be able go back work,, At the moment i have 2 part time jobs, I had been in my second job only 7months when my back went, I have tried to go back work but it left my in so much pain that the doctor said to have another month of work which if fine for her to say that but i have bills piling up, i've nearly lost my house,, I don't think i will be able keep that job

    I just wish the doctor would do more,

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  • just seeing if any body else gets muscle twinges below there knee in the leg they are having pain in and pins&needles?
    ever since my back and leg problem happend my muscles twinge sometimes it can just be one but other times if feels like all the muscles in my lower leg are twining,
    There are times when i can actually see a lump appear in my leg and there is a slight pain
    Any help with this would be appreciated
  • Hi!

    Don't know if it's of any help but when I had bad sciatica, one of the feelings I got in my calf muscles was almost like a cramping feeling, it wasn't actual cramp but felt like it. I still get it now occasionally but stretching my leg seems to sort it out.

    When you get pins and needles does it only affect part of your leg or foot? When I saw my consultant and told him I had symptoms down the back of my leg and in the outside two toes of my foot he almost immediately knew which part of my back was playing up and was later confirmed with an mri. If you have a look at a dermatome chart you can see which part of the back affects which parts of your leg and feet, in my case it was my l5 s1 disc and the pain, numbness and tingling I had matches exactly what's on the charts. That may go some way to getting your doctor identify the problem area if you're able to narrow down any specific position.

    Hope this helps and best of luck in your recovery!
    L5-S1 microdiscectomy, May 2015
  • Hi MrJolly
    I get pins and needles all down my right leg into my toes and slightly in my left every day,
    They change from mild to unbearable
    I get pain in my right hip and bum check but this is not every day

    The last time i went the doctors she told me go for a 20 minute walk because i told her i feel stiff when i wake up sometimes and if i've not moved for abit she wouldn't do anything about the pins and needles she just did the reflex test which left leg shoots up straight away and right hardly moves but still this is fine,

    I will look at the dermatome chart
    Thank you and i hope you are doing alright
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  • When i get the pain in my leg it's down the back of my leg
    I can also experience pins and needles across my lower back and between my legs,
    I have asked about sciatica but never get any straight answer, i feel like my doctors set her mind that its this problem and will not check for other possibilities

  • dilauroddilauro ConnecticutPosts: 12,519
    that really can not be medically answered here. Those questions need to be directed to your doctor and you need to understand what they are saying.

    Not rudely, but pin them down as to what is their formal diagnosis of your medical situation. Then once they explain that to you, they should be able to provide any type of action plan. If the diagnostic tests are coming back negative and you are still in a lot of pain, ask if there are any other tests that could be done. That of course assumes that your insurance company will approve them. The doctor needs to justify to the insurance carrier why such and such as test is being done.

    One of the problems about being online, is that you will hear many different comments. Some are very accurate, but there are some that will get you to worry. Then the next thing is that you may think you have this or that, etc. Since your doctor indicated that you have muscle and ligament damage , what exactly is that damage and why? And what is the treatment?

    You only hope that it is not spinal related and it is muscular in nature. That is still painful and can take a long time to heal, its acute and should subside over time.

    If you are not going anywhere with your current doctor and you still feel the way you do, then perhaps looking for a second opinion would be in order.
  • Hi dilauro
    That is my plan tomorrow to try get them to listen to me
    I have know looked at the dermatome map so i can say exactly where the pain is,

    Unfortunately i do not have medical insurance, So relying on the nhs doctors to sort me out
    When i go back and explain what kind of pain i am in they are reluctant to try anything else, they seem to be set on muscle and ligament damage but they've not said which ones or what to expect,
    i feel sometimes they don't appreciate how this is affecting me
    I'm asingle mum and my kids and family have been great

    I have wrote all my pain symptoms down and where the pain is coming from and how bad it gets
    so i have this to show the doctor in hope its gets them to explore other options,
    At this rate im going to loose both my jobs,

    I will put on here what happens at my appoinment
  • mrjollymmrjolly Posts: 53
    edited 09/22/2015 - 10:37 AM
    You don't need insurance to have a private consultation in the UK, I also started with the nhs back in March but after two months of not being able to stand or walk, being bedbound and fobbed off with "it's just sciatica" from my gp, a&e and not even being offered an mri I phoned a well known private healthcare company over here and asked what my options were. Even though you don't have insurance you can self-fund and pay for yourself for a consultation which I did out of desperation and got a consultation the next day, an mri the day after, a follow up to discuss the mri results 7 days later and paid for a private op about 12 days after that.

    If you don't get any luck tomorrow and need any info about who/what/how much each step cost give me a shout and I'll send a pm with some details as not allowed to post specifics here!

    Hopefully all goes week tomorrow though and you get some answers so good luck!
    L5-S1 microdiscectomy, May 2015
  • Hi Mrjolly
    Sorry to hear you have had a bad time as well,
    I don't see why you were not sent for an MRI scan almost immediately

    Well the doctor didn't even remember that i had already had an MRI scan,
    All she did was check the sensitivity in my legs yet again, Only had a quick glance at my notes i had took with me,
    then tried send me for physio which i'm already attending
    Alls she's done is increase my neurontin to 9 aday and told me to discuss my pain with my physio,

    Think i will get that info from you about going private, It doesn't install alot of faith when the doctor doesn't remember what i had already
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